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i hope the listener does not construe this as a condemnation of religion. it is rather a condemnation of the merger of politics and religion that we've been seeing occurring over the last 30 years, a phenomenon that debases both politics and religion. as i conclude the tab turner, the united states has been fortunate to have a weighted sum of the worst aspect of europe's history. it had something to do with it, but so did the system of governments that permitted and encouraged religious pluralism, what america did not tubeless mandate a religious test for the office or basis for our domestic detentions as freedom of the bible. the party is attempting to do michelle long recredit. not so much for the republican party. what about the democrats? as i described them in the introduction, the democratic party hosted far too long on franklin d. roosevelt's legacy became complacent and began to feel entitled to its near hegemonic position in culture and the media. when the new began to displace an all three of those arenas, some liberals merely turned into antisexu
i hope the listener does not construe this as a condemnation of religion. it is rather a condemnation of the merger of politics and religion that we've been seeing occurring over the last 30 years, a phenomenon that debases both politics and religion. as i conclude the tab turner, the united states has been fortunate to have a weighted sum of the worst aspect of europe's history. it had something to do with it, but so did the system of governments that permitted and encouraged religious...
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every man had his dope, whether it was religion, philosophy, creed, was the chemical faint -- cocaine, morphine, anything to take the weight of reality. and so we have a hero, intelligent, captivated, a renegade with little regard for right or privilege. to him the world was equally a moral above as well as the los of the progressive area reformer frederick hero. some might be squeamish about it in the criminal cases? in the course of that 60-year career he would tailor testimony, pay off witnesses and tracy tried for a jury bribing and both times barely escaped. do not the rich and powerful bribe jurors, you would as? did not intimidate and coerce judges? to the shrink from any weapons? get in -- compassion for those the faced loss or despair or persecution. a strong emotional nature doted by his upbringing. his father was a book living freethinking of their and owner of a royal furniture shop, abolitionist with steep values of liberty and equality. compassion plays a role of a unifying theory in his chaotic universe. the bids in his other office was built by overalls. poor women fro
every man had his dope, whether it was religion, philosophy, creed, was the chemical faint -- cocaine, morphine, anything to take the weight of reality. and so we have a hero, intelligent, captivated, a renegade with little regard for right or privilege. to him the world was equally a moral above as well as the los of the progressive area reformer frederick hero. some might be squeamish about it in the criminal cases? in the course of that 60-year career he would tailor testimony, pay off...
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there some 10,000 religions. i had to narrow it down to the eight that was difficult, and oncedy that, i made a determined effort to go out and essentially te drive these eight religions. not to just study them as an academic or as the jurmist that i for most of my life was, but to actually experience them to get into the driver's seat and as much as possible to try to figure out what it is that the followers of these faiths get out of it. what does it do for them? >> is it disrespectful to test drive a religion? >> i don't think it is. the problem i have with so much of the discussion of religion in this country is that we are so afraid of offending anyone that we're afraid of discussing it and we're afraid of going out and trying it, and of these eight faiths, everyone welcomed me with open arms. nobody tried to proselatize and shove their religion down my throat. they opened their doors to me, and religions, the vast majority, do accept converts, of course. there are eye few that don't, but most do, and so abs
there some 10,000 religions. i had to narrow it down to the eight that was difficult, and oncedy that, i made a determined effort to go out and essentially te drive these eight religions. not to just study them as an academic or as the jurmist that i for most of my life was, but to actually experience them to get into the driver's seat and as much as possible to try to figure out what it is that the followers of these faiths get out of it. what does it do for them? >> is it disrespectful...
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religion is important people see religious freedom is about practicing any religion. and is a strong driver of public opinion. people think the individual freedom of religion should be protected zero burma government was. it is central to how people view the values that guide them. looking specifically about issues that relate this to religious liberty, there is a majority to protect the rights individuals not only in terms of abortion, employment or same-sex couples but to protect their right to of those in the position to follow the law that disagrees with their prospective. the public is very open that professionals should be able to follow there religious beliefs as well. immigration. it is thought as a polarizing issue. use think we can find a compromise to have laws to protect the borders but also that respect in the brands. if you talk deportation and amnesty they are polarizing discussions but take the issue of immigration and having some kind of compromise of a cost to staying here has a consensus. this is not to say people are the arguments could be exploite
religion is important people see religious freedom is about practicing any religion. and is a strong driver of public opinion. people think the individual freedom of religion should be protected zero burma government was. it is central to how people view the values that guide them. looking specifically about issues that relate this to religious liberty, there is a majority to protect the rights individuals not only in terms of abortion, employment or same-sex couples but to protect their right...
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i don't think religion has anything useful to teach us. one of the main reasons why people are religious is because they are persuaded by the design of living things. it's completely destroyed by darwin. if you read any book by a biologist about evolution, it's hard to see how you could fail to be persuaded of it. the evidence is just absolutely -- there's no doubt about it. it's not a controversial issue. it's completely certain. it's as certain as the fact that the earth and the other planets orbit the sun. more than 40% of the american population think the world is less than 10,000 years old. that's a shocking figure. it shows deep, profound ignorance. it sounds very laudable to teach the controversy, to teach both theories. there's not two theories. there's only one game in town. of course, you have negative reactions from creationists. who cares about them? they don't know anything. i think it was my father who introduced me to darwin. it started a roller coaster and i started to become anti-religious after that. i went through a midd
i don't think religion has anything useful to teach us. one of the main reasons why people are religious is because they are persuaded by the design of living things. it's completely destroyed by darwin. if you read any book by a biologist about evolution, it's hard to see how you could fail to be persuaded of it. the evidence is just absolutely -- there's no doubt about it. it's not a controversial issue. it's completely certain. it's as certain as the fact that the earth and the other planets...
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some say it mixes religion and government. and there may be hot-button issues like affirmative action and same-sex marriage. the justices went their separate ways after the controversial health care ruling in june, and joe johns looks how the rooting may have affected the justices. >> they beginning of the new session the supreme court will be watched for signs of strain between the justices or anything else suggesting things may have changed since the health care ruling which was the biggest ruling in the court since bush versus gore a decade ago. after the supreme court judge, john roberts joked to colleagues that he would find an island to escape the heat. >> the charm has been more than usually taxing, and some have called it the term of the century. >> three months later the court is back and there are no signs of it cooling down. >> the justices are moving from the frying pan into the fire, and they are tackling some of the most legal questions of the day. across the board, probably the biggest term in at least a decade.
some say it mixes religion and government. and there may be hot-button issues like affirmative action and same-sex marriage. the justices went their separate ways after the controversial health care ruling in june, and joe johns looks how the rooting may have affected the justices. >> they beginning of the new session the supreme court will be watched for signs of strain between the justices or anything else suggesting things may have changed since the health care ruling which was the...
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." >> what religion are you? >> mr. grant, i don't know how to say this, but you're not allowed to ask that when someone is applying for a job. it's against the law. >> want to call a cop? >> now ed asner returned to broadway in a play called "grace" playing a man struggling with regret but never at a loss for words. >> are you a jesus freak? >> well, we are not jesus freaks. >> we are both committed christians. >> oh, i've got some news for you. >> all right. >> one, there is no jesus. >> really? >> two. there's no god. >> interesting. >> three. mind your own business and everything works out. >> it officially opens tonight, right? are you having a good time over there with paul rudd and the gang? >> it's a wonderful creative process. i'm with three great actors, having been directed by a great director, written by a great playwright. >> so you're a pig in mud. >> you know the feeling? >> yes, i do. i'm just right up the street. we are at the neil simon, but we are here to talk about you right now. >> you are an exterm
." >> what religion are you? >> mr. grant, i don't know how to say this, but you're not allowed to ask that when someone is applying for a job. it's against the law. >> want to call a cop? >> now ed asner returned to broadway in a play called "grace" playing a man struggling with regret but never at a loss for words. >> are you a jesus freak? >> well, we are not jesus freaks. >> we are both committed christians. >> oh, i've got some...
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look at our situation, the foreigners kill our people, they insult our religion, burning the holy koran and making cartoons about the profit mohammad. if we don't defend -- the methods of the the insurgents are constantly changing. the enemy don't use their old tactics, now they use women, sometimes children and teenagers, they even get dressed up in military uniforms, they don't fight face to face, they're cowards. >> the taliban denies that they use children as suicide bombers. just a few days ago, a 10-year-old boy managed to escape from insurgents whomp going to make him wear a suicide vest so he could blow himself up in front of coalition troops. this man has a 4-year-old son which he says he loves and miss very much. when i asked him how he would feel if he was used as a suicide bomber. he said if he wants to be a suicide bomber, no one can stop him, if he dew it or islam then that's a good thing. there are moments when he smiles, saying this is all a test from god. our real life starts after doomsday, so this is not our real life. this is world is a paradise for pagans and a hell
look at our situation, the foreigners kill our people, they insult our religion, burning the holy koran and making cartoons about the profit mohammad. if we don't defend -- the methods of the the insurgents are constantly changing. the enemy don't use their old tactics, now they use women, sometimes children and teenagers, they even get dressed up in military uniforms, they don't fight face to face, they're cowards. >> the taliban denies that they use children as suicide bombers. just a...
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some people criticize the service, saying it mixes religion and government. >>> and the supreme court may tackle hot-button issues like affirmative action and same-sex marriage when its new term starts tomorrow. the justices went their separate ways for the summer after the court's controversial health care ruling in june. joe johns takes a look at how the health care ruling may have affected the justices' relationships, and the tough issues ahead for the court. >> reporter: at the beginning of the new session the supreme court is going to be closely watched for signs of strain between the justices or anything else that suggests things may have changed since the health care ruling, which arguably was the biggest opinion by the court since bush versus gore more than a decade ago. right after the supreme court's health care decision in june, chief justice john roberts joked to colleagues that he would find an island fortress to escape the political heat. here's how justice ruth bader ginsburg described the eventful spring. >> the term has been more than usually taxing. some have called
some people criticize the service, saying it mixes religion and government. >>> and the supreme court may tackle hot-button issues like affirmative action and same-sex marriage when its new term starts tomorrow. the justices went their separate ways for the summer after the court's controversial health care ruling in june. joe johns takes a look at how the health care ruling may have affected the justices' relationships, and the tough issues ahead for the court. >> reporter: at...
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some people criticize the service because of the mix of religion and government. >>> raging -- a fight raging only in syria today where observers report heavy shelling from the syrian army. 143 people were killed across the country with most of those deaths in damascus and its surrounding suburbs. a local opposition group reports finding 30 bodies in a damascus basement. >>> a 72-year-old man jumps from the window of his burning apartment. his neighbors caught him. ronnie poe fell three stories. his only injury was a bruised heal. he said flames were blocking all the exit routes. >> i held my army out right here and waited and waited. i couldn't hold on no more. >> i held him. i said are you all right? >> poe says he's not afraid of heights because the army trained him as a para trooper. who knew it would come in handy? >>> now to the big stories in the week ahead. from the white house to wall street, our correspondents tell you what you need to know. we begin with the president al debate on wednesday. >> i'm dan lothian at the white house. a big week for president obama as he faces hi
some people criticize the service because of the mix of religion and government. >>> raging -- a fight raging only in syria today where observers report heavy shelling from the syrian army. 143 people were killed across the country with most of those deaths in damascus and its surrounding suburbs. a local opposition group reports finding 30 bodies in a damascus basement. >>> a 72-year-old man jumps from the window of his burning apartment. his neighbors caught him. ronnie poe...
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up to now, there has been a remarkable little discussion about religion by both these candidates. >> it cracks me up when people say religious stuff does not matter. after 9/11, every church, i always synagogues -- get a kick out of folks who say that stuff don't matter, but all of a sudden you lose your job, you are praying. at thea professor university of the district of columbia community college, and i am happy to say several of my students are here because i offered it as an extra credit. >> you knew that was a follow-up question. >> it was interesting it came at the beginning of our discussion, when we started with the voter suppression efforts that have gone on, and it was positive as an opportunity. i would like to continue with that thought, because there is an opportunity, and you have discussed the ways that institutionally you have been fighting these efforts. how do we translate said that this becomes an ongoing and continuing effort to get individuals and communities as well to empower themselves, both in terms of knowledge and activism, so that voters oppression effort
up to now, there has been a remarkable little discussion about religion by both these candidates. >> it cracks me up when people say religious stuff does not matter. after 9/11, every church, i always synagogues -- get a kick out of folks who say that stuff don't matter, but all of a sudden you lose your job, you are praying. at thea professor university of the district of columbia community college, and i am happy to say several of my students are here because i offered it as an extra...
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accuse the mayan mar government of discriminating against them because of their dark-skinned color and religion. christopher stevens, the late ambassador to libya and grad here was killed this month in an attack on the u.s. cancalate in libbia. initial reports blamed it on an american-made anti-muslim film. but further investigation revealed that terrorists were behind the murder. stevens was honored in a moment of silence before the cal/arizona game and a memorial fund has been established in his name. the imlufs came-- the gloves came off in a heated debate this weekend. he opposes measure "n," which moore and the progressive alliance supports, it would charge merchant who is sell sugar-sweetened drinks a penny-per-ounce tax. moore said that buswrai hit him first. a manhunt for a man and a teenager wanted for murder in san leantro. this photo was released. they are looking for a 17-year-old suspect. the two are accused of shooting and killing a man inside his home, on kentwood lane on september 16. in oakland, a rally is set to begin in an hour to protest a deadly shooting by police. 18-year-
accuse the mayan mar government of discriminating against them because of their dark-skinned color and religion. christopher stevens, the late ambassador to libya and grad here was killed this month in an attack on the u.s. cancalate in libbia. initial reports blamed it on an american-made anti-muslim film. but further investigation revealed that terrorists were behind the murder. stevens was honored in a moment of silence before the cal/arizona game and a memorial fund has been established in...
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but it's our religion and we want to portray that. >> reporter: ryan owens, abc news, texas. >> religion and public life always is a hot debate. >> you never have anything -- it's not a quiet. one side or the other. no in between. >> very little gray in that one. the judge said he need a few more weeks to issue a final ruling. he will allow the banners to continue on the field. next time this will hit court, october 18th for a hearing. we will see what he says. >> yeah, a lot of people watching this one. >> there we go. we see them. we found a picture of you. >> my high school. look at those thighs. wow. >> looking toned and fit there, reena. >> i failed, by the way, my cheerleading tryouts. it's like, she's out the door. she is not the cheerleader. >> i like the picture. ahead our friday morning version of "insomniac theater." >> today a live quest, director of the new movie called "smashed." that's getting rave reviews up next. >> go, reena, go, reena. >> announcer: abc's "world news now" will continue after this from o >> we tur >>> now we turn to a special edition of "insomniac theat
but it's our religion and we want to portray that. >> reporter: ryan owens, abc news, texas. >> religion and public life always is a hot debate. >> you never have anything -- it's not a quiet. one side or the other. no in between. >> very little gray in that one. the judge said he need a few more weeks to issue a final ruling. he will allow the banners to continue on the field. next time this will hit court, october 18th for a hearing. we will see what he says. >>...
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remember how barack obama was hurt by the statement about clinging to guns and religion, same dynamic. what does he believe behind closed doors about you? and that's the other piece of that that's effective. you can identify with those people on the screen. and you can say even if you do pay federal income taxes, that was really an attack about people like me. i think that's the most effective ad the obama campaign has run. >> do you think voters expect honesty from the candidates? >> we know that voters tell us that they don't like attack in politics. and they don't like deception in politics. we know that attack can move voters. and we know that deception can move voters who aren't informed and and anchored in the facts. but we also know that voters value honesty and we know it through indirect evidence. we know that when the republicans successfully lodge the charge in 2000 that al gore wasn't trustworthy, and they did it in part with an ad that played on his statement about playing a role in the creation of the internet, that it hurt perceptions of his trustworthiness and honesty
remember how barack obama was hurt by the statement about clinging to guns and religion, same dynamic. what does he believe behind closed doors about you? and that's the other piece of that that's effective. you can identify with those people on the screen. and you can say even if you do pay federal income taxes, that was really an attack about people like me. i think that's the most effective ad the obama campaign has run. >> do you think voters expect honesty from the candidates?...
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it's like an emerging religion. some churches now offer gluten-free communion wafers. this is no longer a fad. it's a business. >> why are you eating gluten-free? >> because she's eating it. >> okay. >> what is gluten? >> some kind of wheat. >> gluten is a protein found in wheat, rye, and barley, so it's in baked goods and cereals, but because it acts as a sticky binding agent, it's also in soups, gravies, sauces, salad dressings, even hot dogs and ketchup. but some people just can't digest gluten. if they eat it, they'll get sick. about 1% of americans have ciliak disease, coming with rashes or joint pain. what's interesting is that there aren't nearly enough people who have medical problems with gluten to explain the giant surge in gluten-free products. >> we know have over 300 gluten-free products. >> don is a marketing manager for general mills. >> ranging from yogurt, progressive soups, all the way to our chex flavors as well as betty crocker. >> is there any scientific proof that if you're not part of that extremely small minority of americans who are sensitive t
it's like an emerging religion. some churches now offer gluten-free communion wafers. this is no longer a fad. it's a business. >> why are you eating gluten-free? >> because she's eating it. >> okay. >> what is gluten? >> some kind of wheat. >> gluten is a protein found in wheat, rye, and barley, so it's in baked goods and cereals, but because it acts as a sticky binding agent, it's also in soups, gravies, sauces, salad dressings, even hot dogs and ketchup....
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we are a target country when it comes to an unusual religion. host: this is following up with your definition about abortion rights. [laughter] guest: never understand why this is a hard concept to grasp. we want enough government so people are not killed in the womb. that doesn't mean we want the government to make this go through 18 hours of procedures to change the awning in front of the store. host: 114,000 jobs created in september and the unemployment rate going down, 7.8%. guest: yet it's still higher than the day obama took office. that excludes all the people that have given up looking for work. it is still higher than the day he took office. host: with the trend going down, how do you think it will play politically? guest: 23 million people are out of work. the country is suffering. maybe they do not know on capitol hill. people know that people are not working are working at far less jobs than they had a few years ago. we have to get the country going again. host: teresa in florida. caller: you just about talked out the clock. most of
we are a target country when it comes to an unusual religion. host: this is following up with your definition about abortion rights. [laughter] guest: never understand why this is a hard concept to grasp. we want enough government so people are not killed in the womb. that doesn't mean we want the government to make this go through 18 hours of procedures to change the awning in front of the store. host: 114,000 jobs created in september and the unemployment rate going down, 7.8%. guest: yet...
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it's like an emerging religion. some churches now offer gluten free commonon wafers. this is a business. >> why you eating gluten free? >> because she's eating. >> what is gluten. >> wheat i think? >> right. gluten is a protein found in wheat, rye, and barley. so it's in baked goods and cereals, but because it acts as a sticky binding agent, it's also in soups, gravy, sauces, salad dressings, even hot dogs and ketchup. but some people just can't digest gluten. if they eat it, they'll get sick. about 1% of americans have skeel yak disease, guaranteeing that gluten in their diet carries with it pain, discomfort, sometimes even rashes or joint pain. what's interesting is that there aren't nearly enough people who have medical problems with gluten to explain the giant surge in gluten-free products. >> we now have over 300 gluten free products. >> dom is a marketing manager for general mills. >> they range from fruit snacks and yoplait yogurt, progresso soups all the way to our chex favors as well as bet ewe crocker and business quick. >> is there any scientific proof if y
it's like an emerging religion. some churches now offer gluten free commonon wafers. this is a business. >> why you eating gluten free? >> because she's eating. >> what is gluten. >> wheat i think? >> right. gluten is a protein found in wheat, rye, and barley. so it's in baked goods and cereals, but because it acts as a sticky binding agent, it's also in soups, gravy, sauces, salad dressings, even hot dogs and ketchup. but some people just can't digest gluten. if...
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>> there is the party to show religion in and there is an opportunity to move certain voters. when you have an honest conversation with the hispanic community about religion and the republican mardy and democratic party and the example is i'm a democrat and latino because i believe that i believe in taking care of my fellow man and my fellow wollman and the democratic party looks at those issues how do we support the families in need and they say it makes sense to make that social of reach and support and on the republican side we look back on the issue of abortion. i think every devotee for latinos is that you are walking down the middle of the road with them when it comes to religion because of the tug of war. my mother-in-law knows what i do in terms of the democratic message being out there and supporting my president but she is a strong woman of faith and she cannot be displayed or move when it comes to issues on abortion and she told me don't call me on election day but i anderson and because she's also volunteered and has done a lot in the community coming to help the c
>> there is the party to show religion in and there is an opportunity to move certain voters. when you have an honest conversation with the hispanic community about religion and the republican mardy and democratic party and the example is i'm a democrat and latino because i believe that i believe in taking care of my fellow man and my fellow wollman and the democratic party looks at those issues how do we support the families in need and they say it makes sense to make that social of...
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and enter paul ryan talking about guns and religion out on the campaign trail. alluding to something president obama then running as a candidate said back in 2008. clayton, remember this one. >> clayton: here is his rebuttal to that saying he in fact would be clinging to this, take a listen. >> people have been beaten down and they feel betrayed by government. >> so ball ryan out on the campaign trail yesterday reminded someone of that moment when candidate obama said that and he gave his rebuttal. >> you know, sometimes when the president is speaking he kind of reveals his thoughts, his little more candid moments. remember that video where he was talking to the donors in san francisco and he said, people like us in the midwest, we get bitter and we cling to our guns and our religion. well, you know what i have to say? this catholic deer hunter is guilty as charged and i'm proud of that fact. and this is-- that's the kind -- that's what problem is. >> clayton: that was paul ryan out on the campaign trail yesterday and to dave's point the major candidates are und
and enter paul ryan talking about guns and religion out on the campaign trail. alluding to something president obama then running as a candidate said back in 2008. clayton, remember this one. >> clayton: here is his rebuttal to that saying he in fact would be clinging to this, take a listen. >> people have been beaten down and they feel betrayed by government. >> so ball ryan out on the campaign trail yesterday reminded someone of that moment when candidate obama said that and...
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together and make people to communicate even if they don't speak the same language, they have different religions. >> rose: so when you left la scala, why did you leave? >> as i said, i was in la is a la for 19 years, scala for 19 years, even longer than -- >> and my relationship with the orchestra and the chorus has always been for 19 years perfect. then when i had a fight with the administration, let's say, because i don't want to indicate this or that person, and everything became political, and in italy, when something becomes political, and the controversial, politically speaking, then the only thing that you can do is to leave. but 19 years are a part of my best years in my musical career, so i said, you know,, to explain exactly details of what happened is impossible, and the newspapers generally made a mess of the entire story, because they didn't know exactly the details. they thought that the orchestra was against me, but this is not true. >> rose: not true. >> absolutely not true. i never had a fight with an orchestra in my life. but there were reasons outside of the artistic field tha
together and make people to communicate even if they don't speak the same language, they have different religions. >> rose: so when you left la scala, why did you leave? >> as i said, i was in la is a la for 19 years, scala for 19 years, even longer than -- >> and my relationship with the orchestra and the chorus has always been for 19 years perfect. then when i had a fight with the administration, let's say, because i don't want to indicate this or that person, and everything...